Red Bull extends Renault engine deal

[Tension_36th]

In what is a classic case of Mclaren whining, they are vetoing Redbull from getting Mercedes engines for next year.

These scum bags know that Brawn GP is already a big headache, now redbull will be an even bigger headache with Mercedes power onboard.

The chances are now that Renault engine deals will last the next two years since going with cosworth is pointless. Cosworth will be terrible in fuel consumption and their reliability will be unpredictable as they are understood to be pursuing the highest performance for next year. Cosworth were one of the low-mid range engines in 2006 despite having nearly 20,000 rpms, The fuel economy was pathetic as well.

Such aggressive performance tweaking will lead to poor reliability. And performance doesn't come easy most of the time involves higher mixtures and fast fuel burn cycles

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/ne...0015.shtml

[alonso 4ever]

that's a shame becoz the car was really good this season..

maybe they should continue with renault then.. or take ferrari and give toro roso the renault!!

mercedes was the best but mclaren won't let them take it coz rudbull may be better than them

[Tension_36th]

(10-22-2009 02:01 AM)alonso 4ever Wrote:  that's a shame becoz the car was really good this season..

maybe they should continue with renault then.. or take ferrari and give toro roso the renault!!

mercedes was the best but mclaren won't let them take it coz rudbull may be better than them

No one wants a ferrari engine it poor on fuel consumption, its the worst on the grid right now.

Mercedes will be forced to down-tune their engines once the FIA approves the 2nd round of engine equalizations ahead of 2010.

[icegirljenni]

They should give Toyota a try. Though they are not secure right now and may pull out anytime, but to go Cosworth or stay Renault is totally wasting. I am predicting RBR as strong as this season, but if they just couldnt sort the engine issue, am afraid title chase is no where near.

[Tension_36th]

(10-22-2009 05:50 AM)icegirljenni Wrote:  They should give Toyota a try. Though they are not secure right now and may pull out anytime, but to go Cosworth or stay Renault is totally wasting. I am predicting RBR as strong as this season, but if they just couldnt sort the engine issue, am afraid title chase is no where near.

Yeah Toyota is still better on the mileage atleast, far better than Cosworth. But Renault is the better option considering power levels compared to the Toyota.

We will mostly see Renault will be the engine for redbull.

[Tension_36th]

Sanity will prevail at Redbull an they will use Renault engines it has emerged

It was to be expected next year they need mileage and Redbull can extract everything from the aerodynamics side and can afford to loose some BHPs.

Enzo's also adage is slowly being put to rest now, you do need aerodynamics more than muscle engines.

[icegirljenni]

As i said earlier keeping with Renault engine might not be completely bad at all becuase considering no refueling rules for next year. Until now, Renault is the only engine that prove can save lots of fuel. Ferrari engine LOL no saving at all, mclaren might be, but renault is the best. RBR may make a clever move here.

[alonso 4ever]

well, i think keeping the renault engine was the best option for redbull..

just hope 2009 won't repeat again.. with all the engine problems they had

i really like them as a team, they all r hard workers and have good drivers (especially vettel)

[funkyfish]

The only problem with keeping Renault engines, is that if Renault pull out of F1, what about the engines for the other teams? I take it they will carry on providing them even if they are not themselves in F1.

[Tension_36th]

(11-04-2009 05:57 PM)funkyfish Wrote:  The only problem with keeping Renault engines, is that if Renault pull out of F1, what about the engines for the other teams? I take it they will carry on providing them even if they are not themselves in F1.

Renault's recent push to supply only engines is an indicator for that, they may want to only supply engines which is profitable and no risks involved in being a full team owner.

[icegirljenni]

Yes, Renault has hinted us that they wanted to supplied only engine, and am sure they wont be pull out just so soon like Toyota, at least they confirm Kubica now , that means they are in a way preparing to race at least for another year to see the progress. So next year seem secure for Renault. but 2011? no guarantee.

[pete]

Hopefully the Renault engine for next year will be just as good for them as it was this year albeit the failures and the my just thrash the other teams.

[Tension_36th]

Since Mercedes has essentially severed from Mclaren and Mclaren have no say in the matters Mercedes have to consider, Redbull maybe back in the hunt for their engines. but its a bit late since the RB6 under Adrian Newey has been already drafted and mostly designed with the Renault engines in mind. Changing the engine mounts and position means new vibration checks and dyno tests plus reworking the rear-end package of the car.

This will be interesting. But Redbull would be better off with the fuel efficient Renault engines albeit slightly lesser power output.

[icegirljenni]

I somehow wish they did not change the engine choice. Please stay with Renault. The refueling ban somehow might be quite benefit for Renault engine.

[TheProdigalSon]

Renault will continue to supply engines in F1 no matter what outcome they decide to take on their team.

[Spyro]

i do think that renault will stay supplying engines it would be to fast for them to fully dissapear

[Tension_36th]

Reports in the French press core that Renault have passed a budget and is subject to signing off or perhaps already signed off just pending official announcement.

One can look towards reduced budgets and lackluster performances in 2010 due to lack of engineering talent. But atleast they will be on the grid. If their car is decent enough that Renault engine's super mileage-to-power ratio can prove a big help in race conditions.

[icegirljenni]

And they had confirm the driver for testing, looks like they will go on for another season i bet.

[Tension_36th]

Christian Horner is still unwilling to confirm the Renault deal extension atleast for 2010.

This can be seen as an instruction from Renault to not confirm anything because if Redbull did it would defeat the purpose of an official confirmation from Renault due later this year about their continuation in F1. Its a PR related strategy.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/ne...0851.shtml

[icegirljenni]

isnt earlier they just confirm about the deal? i remember we had the news posted here. so Renault entry for 2010 i unsecure? damn.