Malaysian GP Race Day

[icegirljenni]

wow this is an amazing race, first of all petrov? oh my god what a good defending skill he has, competing with the pig is really amazing, very interesting. Sepang has a lots of overtaking, am happy it doesnt rain and ruin the race. Good drive by Vettel, Webber, paid off their last 2 races failure. Kubica has a strong race too . Nico nothing significant today, pretty much an easy drive for him. Poor shoe licker lol Mc laren real faster car today they almost lapping at the same speed as RBR but not much. towards end they were quite screw up with tyre issue. But strong race for them too.

Lotus LOL so much error in 1 pit stop bad for petrov too as he retired.

am really enjoy this race

[Jam_Van_Dam]

Finally Vettel gets a win :D really should be 3 out of 3 tho :(

Alonsos speed when he pitted for soft tyres was good considering he had problems with changing gears, costing around 3 tenths a lap apparently. Why did Ferrari wait so long to bring him in :fail: I was assuming they were trying to hold on until it rained, didnt work though. In the end it didnt matter

Hamilton is a asshole, guy should be banned with his defending on petrov, obviously he doesnt know the rules. Only got a warning tho :fail:

[icegirljenni]

(04-04-2010 11:48 AM)Jam_Van_Dam Wrote:  Finally Vettel gets a win :D really should be 3 out of 3 tho :(

Alonsos speed when he pitted for soft tyres was good considering he had problems with changing gears, costing around 3 tenths a lap apparently. Why did Ferrari wait so long to bring him in :fail: I was assuming they were trying to hold on until it rained, didnt work though. In the end it didnt matter

Hamilton is a asshole, guy should be banned with his defending on petrov, obviously he doesnt know the rules. Only got a warning tho :fail:

Team want Alonso to make up some time , that is why he was to stay longer than massa. But the car already sounds bad, so retiring is already expected before his pit stop

[Chrissie]

for Ferrari for being nobs yet again and leaving it too long to pit Alonso


for Alonso....all that hard work for nothing

for the race...good show

for piggy....that was disgraceful and all he got was barely a slap on the wrist

[Tension_36th]

Vettel was flawless almost unbeatable. Superb drive for redbull and himself. Webber gave a good fight but vettel was just that much better.

Ferrari were slow at the start because pace wise they are slower than the Mclarens, it was only after mclaren pitted way earlier and took on new tyres and shot them out the Ferraris pitted in for new tyres where ran a shorter run on those tyres. Nothing impressive there, anyone can be fast on fresh tyres towards the end on a shorter stint. Button defended well given his tyres were completely shot by then against Massa and then Fernando.

Fernando was short shifting to save fuel, short shifting can be due to gear problems or trying to save fuel, either way it is a demanding process on the engine. So when he took that lunge at Button it finally gave way. Typical fatigue failure. FAIL again for ferrari, they should have told him to save the car and hold station. Now they got no points from the race. Morons. Only the farting donkey will do such things. Fools.

Massa again showed up Fernando. He wont be liking that one bit but there is nothing you can do when Massa was just as fast and when left in the open was pulling away. He had the measure of Fernando all race long. But pace wise Ferrari were slow to Mclaren when it really mattered at the start.

Kubica and Renault were impressive again. And Sutil showed shamiton that even the stalled wing wont help against the lowest drag car out there on track. Petrov has grounds for lodging a complaint because shamilton cant weave so many moves on the straight. Shamilton maybe even stripped points. Petrov drove well almost Kamuiesque. Good for him.

Over all an entertaining race for the spectators. Maybe a mixed up grid is the answer

[Jam_Van_Dam]

(04-04-2010 11:54 AM)icegirljenni Wrote:  

(04-04-2010 11:48 AM)Jam_Van_Dam Wrote:  Finally Vettel gets a win :D really should be 3 out of 3 tho :(

Alonsos speed when he pitted for soft tyres was good considering he had problems with changing gears, costing around 3 tenths a lap apparently. Why did Ferrari wait so long to bring him in :fail: I was assuming they were trying to hold on until it rained, didnt work though. In the end it didnt matter

Hamilton is a asshole, guy should be banned with his defending on petrov, obviously he doesnt know the rules. Only got a warning tho :fail:

Team want Alonso to make up some time , that is why he was to stay longer than massa. But the car already sounds bad, so retiring is already expected before his pit stop

He wasnt going to make up anytime tho as everyone else who had already pitted were going faster with their fresher tyres. The longer they left him out the futher he was going to behind after he pitted, just didnt make sense for me.

[Tension_36th]

(04-04-2010 12:02 PM)Jam_Van_Dam Wrote:  

(04-04-2010 11:54 AM)icegirljenni Wrote:  

(04-04-2010 11:48 AM)Jam_Van_Dam Wrote:  Finally Vettel gets a win :D really should be 3 out of 3 tho :(

Alonsos speed when he pitted for soft tyres was good considering he had problems with changing gears, costing around 3 tenths a lap apparently. Why did Ferrari wait so long to bring him in :fail: I was assuming they were trying to hold on until it rained, didnt work though. In the end it didnt matter

Hamilton is a asshole, guy should be banned with his defending on petrov, obviously he doesnt know the rules. Only got a warning tho :fail:

Team want Alonso to make up some time , that is why he was to stay longer than massa. But the car already sounds bad, so retiring is already expected before his pit stop

He wasnt going to make up anytime tho as everyone else who had already pitted were going faster with their fresher tyres. The longer they left him out the futher he was going to behind after he pitted, just didnt make sense for me.

Yes that might have been the plan but it back fired because Massa was going 1 sec - 1.7 seconds quicker than Fernando and closing the gap. This was one of those half arsed strategies and advises the team has done over the years repeatedly.

[funkyfish]

Good race although a shame about Fernando.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82694

An article about Alonsos problems but to sum it up: On the formation lap his gearbox broke so had no clutch in the race and then the engine broke.

Hamilton on Petrov - What was he thinking? It was appalling driving. His start was really good though. A great drive from vettel. I definately think as long as they don't keep getting the reliability problems, Red Bull are the team to beat.

[alonso 4ever]

i didn't like the race as i expected more overtaking and rain...

i like little rain coz that spice everything...

what a bad luck for fernando :(

kubica was great again..

so happy that vettel's bad luck is over
congrants to the RBR drivers and team.... they deserved that..

massa did a good job too by finishing the race 7th after starting from 21..

[TheProdigalSon]

(04-04-2010 12:02 PM)Tension_36th Wrote:  Massa again showed up Fernando. He wont be liking that one bit but there is nothing you can do when Massa was just as fast and when left in the open was pulling away. He had the measure of Fernando all race long. But pace wise Ferrari were slow to Mclaren when it really mattered at the start.

umm no Alonso had no clutch and was still faster and kept up with Massa check fastest lap times. Alonso drove superbly massa was nothing special. Ferrari were saying the clutch problem was costing alonso almost 7 tenths per lap and he was right with massa for most of the race until the pitstops.

says alot about alonso skill and i doubt massa would have done the same with that problem. alonso out-qualified outpaced massa in all the sessions. Alonso has the the measure of massa and without that problem would have been up there with hamilton moving through the field unlike massa who was unspectacular.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82719

Quote:"It was difficult," Alonso added. "Already from the start we had a problem with the gearbox so it was very difficult to drive the car. For me it was the most difficult race of my life and probably the best race of my life until the problem."

[icegirljenni]

F10 were way faster than RBR at one point? They were quite struggling to pass toro rosso, as well as Mclaren in the entire race. What was the advantage of speed they have over RBR that Fernando said ? Maybe someone can explain to me well. RBR has Vettel retired for last 2 races, and no one will know whether or not F10 can beat RBR. I like his optimistic and his confidence level. I just dont know hows that comment suppose to work. Massa again has a good start compare to Fernando. Fernando didnt get the clutch prob right from the beginning isnt it? Odd. i feel so funny sometime. Fernando performance seem to be bar by million of problems with his car.

Both Massa and Alonso lapping almost in the same zone of time and thats explain to why Fernando himself facing the difficulty to pass his team mate at one level. He was pretty faster after they had the fresh tyre on. But they are not really that fast compare to Mclaren. Even Force India were doing a better job today.

Quote:Only seven points in the bag for Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro at the end of the Malaysian Grand Prix, courtesy of a seventh place for Felipe Massa. Fernando Alonso had to retire at the start of lap 55, when the engine broke. After the first three races of the season, Felipe heads the Drivers’ classification on 39 points, two more than his team-mate and Vettel, while the Scuderia stays at the top of the Constructors’ classification with 76 points, ten more than McLaren.

Stefano Domenicali: “There’s no way we can be happy with the outcome of this third race weekend of the season. We came to Malaysia with very different objectives and taking home a mere seven points is a disappointment. Today’s result is down to yesterday’s qualifying: when you start that far back on the grid, it’s difficult to do better. On top of that, we had a few reliability problems which should put us on our guard: if we want to aspire to the title we absolutely have to sort this out. Fernando drove an amazing race, given that right from the formation lap, he had a problem going through the gears. To drive under these conditions is impressive and he was able to stay in the fight for points right to the end. Felipe also drove a really great race, especially in the second part and heading the Drivers’ classification is a just reward for all he has done in this early part of the season. An initial assessment after three races? Positive, because we lead both championships and have shown we are competitive at the highest level. We know where we have to improve – performance and reliability – but we can count on an excellent package – car, drivers, team – all capable of being in the fight for both titles.”

Felipe Massa: “All things considered, we did a good job in these first three races, as proved by the fact we lead both championships. However, there are still sixteen races to go and we know there is much room for improvement in terms of car performance and in making it totally reliable. Given where we started from, seventh place is probably the best we could hope for. We tried to delay the tyre change as much as possible, also because over the past days it has always rained in the afternoon and if that had happened today, we would have been able to exploit any opportunity. Unfortunately, for once, the rain did not come. The soft tyres were quicker but probably at the start, the track was not rubbered in enough to get them working at their best, so our strategy was the right one. The duel with Button was very complicated: down the straights, he could always pull away, but when he made a mistake at the final corner, I was able to get close enough to overtake under braking for the first one. Today’s race proves the need to fight on every lap of the championship: we have a lot of work to do, so we must keep focussed and not lessen our efforts.”

Fernando Alonso: “This was a very difficult weekend. We made a big mistake in yesterday’s qualifying and today in the race, I had to retire with an engine problem. My race was an uphill climb from the start: I found I had a problem with the gearbox right from the start and I had to drive without a clutch for practically the whole race. Trying to look on the positive side, at least the engine failure only cost me two points: it would have been much worse if I had been in the lead! Seeing what happened in the previous days, it made sense to expect rain and so we made the first stint as long as possible, but unfortunately, it did not happen. Today, we gave Red Bull a little gift: if we had qualified in a normal fashion then we would certainly have given them a hard time. I am not worried about the engine failure, as our engineers have enough experience and ability to resolve this situation. Given everything that happened, we can be proud of what we managed to do in the race and we can look forward with confidence to the next Grand Prix, which we will be trying to win.”

Chris Dyer: “A very disappointing race and there’s not much else to say. We had seen the potential of the car and both drivers, especially in the final stages of the race and it is a very great shame we were unable to exploit that fully, because of the mistake we made in yesterday’s qualifying. We had two serious technical problems on Fernando’s car – first a malfunction in the gearbox right from the start of the race which handicapped him throughout and then, at the end, the engine failure, which caused his retirement. Felipe drove a good race and leaves Malaysia at the head of the classification: there you are, that’s the only positive note at the end of a weekend where we had definitely expected a lot more.”

[icegirljenni]

Just thought that this is funny

Renault critical of Hamilton's weaving

Quote:Hamilton was fighting Petrov hard for position during the Malaysian Grand Prix and, after overtaking the Russian, he weaved down the start-finish straight several times to try and prevent a counter-attack.

That action prompted suggestions that Hamilton had broken the unofficial drivers' code of conduct that they can only make one directional move to defend a position.

However, with Hamilton accelerating out of a corner rather than coming under pressure into a braking zone, there were other arguments suggesting he was simply trying to break the tow.

Renault boss Eric Boullier said his team complained to race control about Hamilton's actions during the event - and felt the FIA should have done more than show the former world champion a black and white flag for unsportsmanlike behaviour.

"We just raised our point of view," Boullier told AUTOSPORT. "Very frankly, it is very clear in the regulations that you can have one change of direction, so when you do three in a row something is wrong.

"He got a warning for dangerous driving, but I am not sure it is enough. It is definitely clearly written in the regulations that you can not do any more than one direction change, and it is something you should not be doing."

When asked if Renault would pursue the matter further to seek clarification from the FIA, Boullier said: "No. A warning says that if you do it again you will be penalised."

[maranellored]

What a total nightmare of a weekend I have had sporting wise.

First Rafa loses in Miami, then crap quali and my football team lose against Arsenal yesterday after almost getting a draw, and then today.

After gritting my teeth through the race, I said to myself that 2 points were better than none, and then Alonso's engine blows!!! And Martin Brundle says "we love him, respect him and DISPISE him". Did anyone else hear that???? It's like ITV all over again

I'm really annoyed right now.

I'll come back and post something more constructive when I've stopped texting the many Hamilton "fans" who are revelling in today's result.....

[Chrissie]

(04-04-2010 06:01 PM)maranellored Wrote:  And Martin Brundle says "we love him, respect him and DISPISE him". Did anyone else hear that???? It's like ITV all over again

I didn't hear that coz I was listening to 5Live...where Anthony Davidson did nothing but praise Alonso for his efforts today


If you can, I'd switch over to 5Live commentary

[maranellored]

(04-04-2010 06:06 PM)Chrissie Wrote:  

(04-04-2010 06:01 PM)maranellored Wrote:  And Martin Brundle says "we love him, respect him and DISPISE him". Did anyone else hear that???? It's like ITV all over again

I didn't hear that coz I was listening to 5Live...where Anthony Davidson did nothing but praise Alonso for his efforts today


If you can, I'd switch over to 5Live commentary

I always did when it was on ITV - James Allen's love affair with Hammy was disgraceful and Leggie was so much better on the radio

I think I'll take your advice for China!!

[Tension_36th]

(04-04-2010 04:30 PM)TheProdigalSon Wrote:  

(04-04-2010 12:02 PM)Tension_36th Wrote:  Massa again showed up Fernando. He wont be liking that one bit but there is nothing you can do when Massa was just as fast and when left in the open was pulling away. He had the measure of Fernando all race long. But pace wise Ferrari were slow to Mclaren when it really mattered at the start.

umm no Alonso had no clutch and was still faster and kept up with Massa check fastest lap times. Alonso drove superbly massa was nothing special. Ferrari were saying the clutch problem was costing alonso almost 7 tenths per lap and he was right with massa for most of the race until the pitstops.

says alot about alonso skill and i doubt massa would have done the same with that problem. alonso out-qualified outpaced massa in all the sessions. Alonso has the the measure of massa and without that problem would have been up there with hamilton moving through the field unlike massa who was unspectacular.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82719

Quote:"It was difficult," Alonso added. "Already from the start we had a problem with the gearbox so it was very difficult to drive the car. For me it was the most difficult race of my life and probably the best race of my life until the problem."

If you had no clutch you cant release the engine from the crank shaft to slow it down or re-engage it start back up again. so it makes hardly sense to say there was 'no clutch'. What you are saying is just as odd as saying someone didnt have an engine and was still racing.

That is just pure ignorance of what the clutch is and what it does.

There clutch was not working well (not a total absence of one) for the downshifts and we have had many races in the past where drivers have all had downshift problems they were still quick in a faster car or slow in a slower car. Seven tenths quicker is BS. You dont loose speed in a down shift maybe more in a up shift even then by no means 7 tenths.

The engine blew because he was stabbing the throttle to keep the engine alive far too much than the engine can normally take. This was expected. While watching the race when I heard it I told Jenni watch for that car its going to blow the transmission or something else. And it did.

[Wellsie]

This race was good, but i liked better the Australian GP. Alonso was fantastic as always; and Vettel was good too.. i think, that he deserved the first place :)

[TheProdigalSon]

Even people who are not fans of Alonso recognized this as an amazing performance considering the problems (Alonso himself saying it was the best race of his life having to adapt a different style while still fighting wheel to wheel with button), tension you were not in the car so you don't know how hard it was for him. The fact you keep puting Alonso down at every opportunity for god knows what reason ....actually thinking about it I know exactly why but I will leave that for another day. I'm not going to argue with you with words, instead I will let Alonso do the talking with his results on track and you can keep twisting and manipulating that into whatever.

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(04-04-2010 06:06 PM)Chrissie Wrote:  

(04-04-2010 06:01 PM)maranellored Wrote:  And Martin Brundle says "we love him, respect him and DISPISE him". Did anyone else hear that???? It's like ITV all over again

I didn't hear that coz I was listening to 5Live...where Anthony Davidson did nothing but praise Alonso for his efforts today


If you can, I'd switch over to 5Live commentary

Martin really showed his bias at that race, if that was Lewis he would have been screaming to the top of his lungs at how brilliant he was. I'm using different commentary for the next race fir sure.

[Ginger]

(04-05-2010 02:22 PM)TheProdigalSon Wrote:  Even people who are not fans of Alonso recognized this as an amazing performance considering the problems (Alonso himself saying it was the best race of his life having to adapt a different style while still fighting wheel to wheel with button), tension you were not in the car so you don't know how hard it was for him. The fact you keep puting Alonso down at every opportunity for god knows what reason ....actually thinking about it I know exactly why but I will leave that for another day. I'm not going to argue with you with words, instead I will let Alonso do the talking with his results on track and you can keep twisting and manipulating that into whatever.

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(04-04-2010 06:06 PM)Chrissie Wrote:  

(04-04-2010 06:01 PM)maranellored Wrote:  And Martin Brundle says "we love him, respect him and DISPISE him". Did anyone else hear that???? It's like ITV all over again

I didn't hear that coz I was listening to 5Live...where Anthony Davidson did nothing but praise Alonso for his efforts today


If you can, I'd switch over to 5Live commentary

Martin really showed his bias at that race, if that was Lewis he would have been screaming to the top of his lungs at how brilliant he was. I'm using different commentary for the next race fir sure.

I didn't hear Brundle say this at all but I didn't listen to the BBC's coverage all through. CAn you tell me roughly at what point he said this? I've recorded it and would like to hear for myself. I like to know the context.
Brundle has a love/hate relationship with Fernando, I can only think because of the McLaren year the team for whom he also drove and therfroe had something of a repationship with R. Denis. Before that awful year he said himself that he idolised him ( or something like that).

Anyway, I'd be grateful if you could give me a rough idea of when it was said.
Thanks

[funkyfish]

I can't remember the exact words Ginger but it was along the lines of thats not the kind of driving we usually see from a man we love, respect and despise. I'll try and find out for you