FIA and F1 teams playing cheap politics over 2011 tyre supplier

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When this is the right and critical time to be finalizing on the low downs of F1 cars for 2011, here we have two groups of idiots arguing over which tyres supplier should get it.

Its very clear who has what to offer.

Michelin:

1) The most recent tyre supplier to leave F1 has a lots of current data on what evolution of tyres are best suited for 2011 style 18inch rims (if approved and enacted into technical regulation)

2) 2nd largest tyre company in the world, with vast experience and resources to supply.

3) Competitive record in morotsports.

4) Costly compared to Pirelli.

Pirelli:

1) Outdated with the times, last supply period between 1950 and 1991

2) Resources no match for Michelin to do research needed for quality tyres in a short period of time by 2011.

3) Competition record in F1 with around 44 wins in the span of 41 years.

4) Cheaper compared to Michelin. But so will be the quality.


This isn't rocket science, its pure business, if Michlein is giving you high quality products at a reasonable margin to you then they are not minting money. They are simply getting their due margins at the same time.

If Pirelli is giving you super cheap tyres, it most definitely is because the time and research invested is less plus the quality of those tyres will be for certain inferior. You can't do magic and deliver such prices using the same quality as your rival. They are here for business as well. They are not doing charity, they will be taking their margins too.

It seems there is a mixture or petty politics and the need to cut down prices. Some cheapos like Ferrari and some others who like the bridgetones, don't want Michelin lovers getting back into a close knit once again. While others want to save and spend less on the tyres per year.

If its about money then they cant have someone like Pirelli supplying in 2011 they must be given time till 2012. But it also about that Michelin connection that some teams don't want coming back. Selfish arses.

If you want a reliable tyres with guaranteed performance envelopes with the capacity to supply fast and efficiently. The choice is very clear Michelin.

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[icegirljenni]

I just dont understand why they are refuse so much to see Michellin return? are not thats gonna improve the racing too?

[Tension_36th]

Now bernie gives another stupid idea. The fart wants tyres to last lesser distances to force teams into pitting more than once, maybe like 2-3 times in a race. This goes against the whole idea of taking up Pirelli in the first place, trying to save costs. So wasting tyres is now the new bright idea of this old nazi lover. Someone needs to assassinate this vermin.

Also revealed is the fact that the 2011 tyres cost peanuts compared to what Michlein and Birdgestone used to charge for their tyres. Pirelli tyres will cost the teams 1.35 million euros per year. And another telling sign why Pirelli got the deal, trackside advertisement. This is all that matters to the greedy fart.

Pirelli tyres will be garbage compared to what Michelin and birdgestone have provided over the years. Now this idiot wants short life tyres and more wastage. So much for the green F1 campaign.

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[kingrossi]

I dont see any wrong in making the tyre to be short lasted. Just for example, see the canadian grand prix 2010. The short lived tyres will bring more excitement and dramma in racing. Now a days, economic situation has been recovered a lot. So increase of costs should not be a big problem for the teams.

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(07-09-2010 03:49 PM)kingrossi Wrote:  I dont see any wrong in making the tyre to be short lasted. Just for example, see the canadian grand prix 2010. The short lived tyres will bring more excitement and dramma in racing. Now a days, economic situation has been recovered a lot. So increase of costs should not be a big problem for the teams.

Its not just a cost increase for the team it is also for the supplier to commit to new R&D, the whole point of many regulations that have stifled innovation at many teams from pursuing new ideas where all in the name of cost saving. Now to go and do something against that idea is foolish and waste of time and effort. The green campaign and cost savings were targeted with the clear direction of channeling F1 tech down to road cars. Who buys a regular tyre that last only 1000km when the rivals all have tyres that last 5000kms? Where is the technological/economical logic for road cars?

Economic conditions haven't improved at all, what improvement? Where? The global currency systems dependent on the US dollar is still falling. Nothing has improved.

A few increases in jobs is not the sign of recovery, those jobs are now all underpaid and no where close to the levels before the recession. Thats the illusion of this apparent recovery. Every company is sizing down and cutting salaries and even more on new recruits. Nothing has improved.

The very reason they went with Pirelli knowing fully Michelin will provide the superior guaranteed tyres were all in the name of cost cutting. But Bernie has other ideas, he is after the track side advertising. Not what the teams think or what the cost cutting campaigns should strive to achieve.

The excitement of pitsotps and strategies where present even during the michelin/bridgestone years. But that got done away with citing costs and too much importance given to tyres.

Well what is it that Bernie is saying now? Place importance on tyres? Don't care about costs? This is nonsense and hypocrisy, he is saying what fits his agenda nothing more, tomorrow when conditions change he will change his idea on the rules again. Never listen to this nazi fart.