British GP qualifying

[Tension_36th]

Redbull destroyed everyone as expected, they had simply too much in reserve. Ferrari were flattered by Mclaren's shenanigans swaping upgrades for the older package with little time to work on setups. Ferrari are still around 1 second slower to the Redbull just like it was in Barcelona.

Shitmilton is right behind alonso, It will take alonso on the first corner as the starts have all been good for Mclaren or shitmitlon will pull the "no one passes me on the outside I am the master later braker" bullshit that could result in an incident.

This is the worst place to be in especially with a ribid creature right behind you.

Alonso was saying "bye bye go home" when the trio grouped to waved to the crowds before heading for the press conference. Alonso was saying to the crowd and Vettel was giggling.

On other matters liuzzi was being an arshole one track. He should be penalized for baulking that williams.

[TheProdigalSon]

Alonso's last lap was spoilt by that shilliams (not that it would have mattered to the redbulls but hamilton n rosberg almost capitilized on it)and vettel got pole by stealing marks new front wing becuase he damaged his own. Redbulls bias is clearer then ever, best quote from Webber "the team got what they wanted".

Anyway Alonso starts on the clean side and if he can have a good start like Valencia he could nick second into turn one.

[icegirljenni]

Am sure that pig will try to screw Fernando race with his own version of nasty overtaking. Hopefully Fernando can get over nicely

[Tension_36th]

(07-10-2010 04:50 PM)TheProdigalSon Wrote:  Alonso's last lap was spoilt by that shilliams (not that it would have mattered to the redbulls but hamilton n rosberg almost capitilized on it)and vettel got pole by stealing marks new front wing becuase he damaged his own. Redbulls bias is clearer then ever, best quote from Webber "the team got what they wanted".

Anyway Alonso starts on the clean side and if he can have a good start like Valencia he could nick second into turn one.

Its nonsense, Alonso was not even close, its the same case of Massa whining in Monza 2006 that Alonso impeded him while being not even close to being really impeded, Williams wa on full pace and that car isnt slow either Rubens got into Q3 on merit.

More Spanish news propaganda. Ferrari are slow with the same amount like they where in Barcelona and they want to find excuses now. They better learn to shut their trap and worry about shamilton because they are not slow. Even without updates they are a threat.

As for Redbull giving Vettel mark wing, it happened after the first wing came off, Alonso has enjoyed new parts while piquet waited for races before getting them. This is hardly a case of that, Mark ran that wing first until vettel had the problem.

Do you realize the reason why it came off in the beginning maybe that the mounting mechanism has a problem and they would rather fit it with a new new wing to see if it happened again?

Quote:"Unfortunately sometimes I have to make a difficult decision – and with only one wing available and the facts to hand that we had, and based on championship position – which was the criteria that we used – that wing went to Sebastian today."

Horner said that if the team was adopting a policy to favour one driver over the other then it would not even have let Webber have the wing in the first place.

Again how many races has Alonso's teammates at Renault had to wait for the same new parts before they get to race it? This is all just hot water and whining. All more jealously and spite that Redbull are ahead and the rest are not.

Quote:"I don't think so," he said. "Our job is to do the best job we can as a team. Sometimes you have to make difficult decisions. It is the first time we have been in a situation where we have only had one component, and I am sure that happens up and down the pit lane.

Precisely Horner, but the rest are just jealous and dont want to talk about the situations at Ferrari with massa, with Shamilton in Mclaren and yes with Alonso at Renault

[Chrissie]

Geez tension is it so hard for you to leave Ferrari alone for one weekend.....say what you like but they've definitely improved since Turkey......yeah they are still a second behind Red Bull but are you trying to tell me RBR have been twiddling their thumbs and not improving as well? At least they are not falling further behind.....

BTW was it not Schumacher who impeded Alonso...he said it himself in the PC and the guys on 5Live said it was Michael too

And I don't think Hamilton will be too much of a problem - he is on the dirty side of the grid - on the other hand he might jump the start, it might take the stewards half a race to penalise him and he may get away with winning....you just never know in Formula 1 these days

[Tension_36th]

(07-10-2010 11:22 PM)Chrissie Wrote:  Geez tension is it so hard for you to leave Ferrari alone for one weekend.....say what you like but they've definitely improved since Turkey......yeah they are still a second behind Red Bull but are you trying to tell me RBR have been twiddling their thumbs and not improving as well? At least they are not falling further behind.....

Still caught by a Mclaren that has gone back on its upgrades, no progress on Ferrari at all after all those races. Their significant upgrade is now insignificant.

If mclaren didnt rush their upgrades they would have worked a normal routine on their setups with the older proven package and Ferrari wont have any of the grid spots they have now. Its an illusion of the situation.

As for the car that Ferrari claims to have impeded Alonso, which it didn't, was a Williams from what I could recall. If it was shoe-licker it still doesn't change the point that Alonso was no where near being impeded.

[Chrissie]

Still though, without Macca cocking up, they would have been the third fastest team and that is an improvement on Turkey where they were at best fourth....probably fifth...


Go on....give them a compliment......






....you know you want to.....

[Chrissie]

(07-10-2010 09:52 PM)Tension_36th Wrote:  Its nonsense, Alonso was not even close, its the same case of Massa whining in Monza 2006 that Alonso impeded him while being not even close to being really impeded, Williams wa on full pace and that car isnt slow either Rubens got into Q3 on merit.

Check out this video from 0.22 seconds onwards and then tell me Alonso was not even close...

Fernando Alonso rueda de prensa tras la Q3 GP G. Bretaña 2010

...apologies for the link but the embed code isn't working for me for some bizarre reason

[Tension_36th]

(07-11-2010 02:26 AM)Chrissie Wrote:  

(07-10-2010 09:52 PM)Tension_36th Wrote:  Its nonsense, Alonso was not even close, its the same case of Massa whining in Monza 2006 that Alonso impeded him while being not even close to being really impeded, Williams wa on full pace and that car isnt slow either Rubens got into Q3 on merit.

Check out this video from 0.22 seconds onwards and then tell me Alonso was not even close...

Fernando Alonso rueda de prensa tras la Q3 GP G. Bretaña 2010

...apologies for the link but the embed code isn't working for me for some bizarre reason

This was not the incident this is another one, not concerned with Q3, In Q3 it was a williams of rubens but it was a great deal ahead.

The clip you showed, the guy is trying to move out of the way, Alonso's reaction is of little use since that guy moved out the moment he realized alonso was there.

[TheProdigalSon]

So mcmorons bring an update a race later than ferrari that's turns out to be awful and your still trying to make them look better than Ferrari. Bottom line is Ferrari beat the mcmorons ("our development is relentless") with the blown diffuser by two races and have improved it and will further improve it with all the miles they are putting on it in the race, mcmorons are on the back foot which ever way you look at it.

I don't know how much money mcmorons are paying you to make them look good but I really hope they fail hard and Ferrari beats the sh*t out of them all season.

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And leave Alonso, I really don't see what else you expected from him. He got third the highest position possible considering the redbulls dominance. The race results is what matters so we shall see what happens

[TheProdigalSon]

Plus it was schumacher who held up Alonso on his final run(Alonso said it himself in the interview), he was on for an improvement and would have only been 0.5seconds of redbulls. luckily he had done enough on his previous run. And looking at where massa is just shows how good a job Alonso did. 0.7 difference is huge, it would have been a second if shoelicker didn't hold up Alonso.

[Tension_36th]

(07-11-2010 07:22 AM)TheProdigalSon Wrote:  So mcmorons bring an update a race later than ferrari that's turns out to be awful and your still trying to make them look better than Ferrari. Bottom line is Ferrari beat the mcmorons ("our development is relentless") with the blown diffuser by two races and have improved it and will further improve it with all the miles they are putting on it in the race, mcmorons are on the back foot which ever way you look at it.

I don't know how much money mcmorons are paying you to make them look good but I really hope they fail hard and Ferrari beats the sh*t out of them all season.

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And leave Alonso, I really don't see what else you expected from him. He got third the highest position possible considering the redbulls dominance. The race results is what matters so we shall see what happens

You are unknowingly talking about your self there. The payment is coming from Ferrari and into your pocket mike. Mclaren goofs up on their major updates and removes them only to get 4th close to the majorly upgraded Ferrari. That has to be the biggest joke in the development race for Ferrari so called big upgrade and still slower to Redbull by 1 second. No progress. You should be considering Ferrari's luck Mclaren wasted time on their failed updates. If it worked they would be eating Mclaren dust. Even without that they are doing well with such short time to spend on getting setups right. But since Mclaren is a 1 driver team all focus goes to shitmilton and not Button in solving issues.

[Tension_36th]

(07-11-2010 08:24 AM)TheProdigalSon Wrote:  Plus it was schumacher who held up Alonso on his final run(Alonso said it himself in the interview), he was on for an improvement and would have only been 0.5seconds of redbulls. luckily he had done enough on his previous run. And looking at where massa is just shows how good a job Alonso did. 0.7 difference is huge, it would have been a second if shoelicker didn't hold up Alonso.

Two times Alonso raise his fists in anger, once behind a Mercedes turns it was Shoelicker, and then behind a Williams thats definitely Rubens. What was Alonso raising his hand for with the Williams only he knows. Looked daft as the Williams was miles ahead, no where near to be considering moving over for Alonso. Plus Rubens was on his hot lap as well, its traffic deal with it.

And nope Alonso would not have made any improvement whatever so ever even if he was not impeded by shoelicker. You pull fictitious numbers from thin air Mike. Alonso on his final run was 1 tenth slower on S1 with a 25.1 and the two tenths slower in S2 with a 92.4 compared to his previous run of S1 25.0, S2 92.2, so he is going to be a rocket in S3 to make up time if sheolicker didnt impede him? Alonso himself concedes it made no difference he wouldn't improve the time.

Dont make up numbers, I am watching the live feeds sector by sector.

By the time I saw his slower S2 time I knew he was not going to improve. The redbulls are just too quick in S2 and S3, exactly why Alonso admits he wouldn't improve.

[icegirljenni]

not a good thread to be read first thing in the morning

[alonso 4ever]

u r right jenni :)

i see that ferrari improved alot and yet they will improve more..

the bulls r just great..

their problem is with the bad luck, silly drivers moves, bad strategies..... etc

any way, congrats to the great bulls and fernando...

he did a really good job and i hope we see him on the poduim today..

[Tension_36th]

Yes just like I warned Mclaren are not sleeping even after going back on their updates, they toasted everyone but redbull, Webber nearly lost the lead there. And they beat Alonso right off the start. The ferrari was not fast either with alonso having to fight hard with the likes of force India.

@Mike: if you learn to take off those rose tinted Ferrari glasses of yours you would be making more sensible comments rather than brash hot headed bullcrap about me getting paid by Mclaren. I talk engineering and I can see why they are strong as they shown time and time again.

[Chrissie]

I know I may as well be talking to the wall but I don't think it's fair to say Ferrari weren't equal with Macca today...we can't know that because Alonso was stuck behind slower cars all race

And before you start with "but he couldn't even overtake a Force India" take a look at how long it took Vettel in the far superior Red Bull to get past Sutil and when he did overtake him it was hardly an easy pass

[icegirljenni]

(07-11-2010 08:59 PM)Chrissie Wrote:  And before you start with "but he couldn't even overtake a Force India" take a look at how long it took Vettel in the far superior Red Bull to get past Sutil and when he did overtake him it was hardly an easy pass

Both Force India were having top speed at the time. They were competitive today. Force India has better straight line speed here, that is why both Ferando and Vettel having a problem in overtaking them.

[Chrissie]

Yes, I know, it's just the way tension phrased his post above mine, made it seem to me like he was saying that Ferrari couldn't even compete with the Force India's and I was just stating that the FI's were not exactly easy to overtake, using Vettel as the example

[icegirljenni]

If he do started that now after today race i will be the one who attack now