Brazil GP Raceday

[Tension_36th]

A sour race with big questions to be asked.

Did vettel really have a gearbox issue? Because they were so scared that he closing in on webber and giving webber a challenge to take the place back or when he was in the lead getting away....

Sure team orders are allowed but what if he wont yield? So the team can lie to a driver tell him he has a problem and he simply has to trust them even if his sense thats not the case.

He even set a few fastest laps when he was supposed to have "lost two gears". Now, he is very good, damn good but he is not a senna just yet to be pulling such pace with a car having lost two gears or having problem with it.

I smell foul play even webber doesn't seemed to be very happy as he should be of a "genuine" win. Maybe he know something we dont...

Anyway Redbull destroys the rest on the final race, will seriously hurt the psyche of other teams and drivers.

Webber needs the win for his morale sake but was a deserving one is one highly contentious question.

Great drive by Sutil again showing Di Resta is another media over hyped garbage like the pig. Force India must be stupid to let him go for someone else with money.

The clash between shoelicker and senna was both driver's fault. Both moved into each other when they shouldn't. FIA fail yet again in properly judging who was to blame.

Either way for Vettel he emerges a hero, getting 2nd place with two gears gone (senna won with 3 gears gone, but there was rain too where he excels) is nothing short of mighty extraordinary which no driver on the grid today could have done. Of course if any of this were true.....

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BBCF1 questioned whether Vettel's gearbox issue was genuine too. They said it was, but I agree with Tension - it was far too convenient

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So......season over. I'm thoroughly disappointed with Ferrari although credit where credit's due, Alonso has driven the wheels off the shed. He has also earned me a bottle of wine that I won in a bet with a Shamilton "fan"; I correctly predicted that FA would be ahead of him end of season

Button has been fantastic and deserves the accolades he is receiving, how funny is it to see Twitmarsh up his arse!!

Massa has been demoralised right from day 1, and accident or not has always been inferior to Fernando every race.

Webber is not up to scratch and his car flatters him, which is saying something.

Vettel has proved that in the perfect car he is also perfect. I'd love to see him in the F150 though.......just for a comparison.

Rosberg has been awesome the last few races but I fear he'll never win a race.

Hats off to Schumi, he's loving his racing and is still an accident waiting to happen.

Shamilton has had the season he deserves - karma for the many years he has disrespected his fellow drivers, stewards and fans..........

As for this race? Boring. DRS has been interesting but a false part of the racing, and for true racers not great. Today it didn't work, but Alonso's round-the-outside move on Button kept me watching.

Let's hope that Ferrari can get their arses into gear and come up with a decent car next year. I fear that if they don't, Alonso will lose any chance of winning that much deserved 3rd title..................

[Tension_36th]

The gearbox conspiracy theories have gained traction.

But as an engineer, I can say it is possible to last an entire race and not have a catastrophic failure. You can definitely save the gearbox by short shifting, but the penalty is obvious, slower times compared to the regular pace, and most definitely to the lead runners. However Vettel was only slower than Webber at that point. Even Alonso couldn't catch him. Button was catching by virtue of switching the hard tyres to operating temperatures and pushing them like crazy to try and catch the others.

Vettel could have made equally fast times as the leaders if it was raining because he is good in the wets, then it would definitely Sennaesque. But in the dry times had to tumble even for Senna. Times were not slow for Vettel at all. And every time Vettel forgot to short-shift (read that as forgot to follow the script?) Rocky comes on the radio and warns he needs to look after the gearbox.

I am going to call this one male cow excrement. But nice try though Redbull. The funny thing is team orders are now allowed so why all the wild goose chase kakameemee stories? The more we read it looks like Vettel was in on this too. Whether it was after sometime in the race or even before the race, we will never know. If Vettel was not in on this, he would be not so happy as he was right after the race, he would be feeling he had been shafted by his own team to let webber win.

Two positive things are, Vettel is not cross about loosing a win to his teammate. He is willing to play the team game when needed. Which is good. And equally Webber is not all in tears of joy winning something he suspects was gifted to him. Webber likes to win it on track like a true sportsman. But why Redbull has to resort to such tactics is very strange now that team orders are allowed. Trying to keep a squeaky clean image perhaps?