Abu Dhabi GP Raceday

[icegirljenni]

What a race so much uncertainty vettel deserved the win the better mens won. Petrov did very well cant blame him for doing what he need do to be shine in race to secure race seat. Webber seem like he didnt want to try help vettel since he so behind. Ferrari were just lucky with others retirments to be in this leading position anyway so this in a way expected that redbull be winner in end. Better luck next time.

[maranellored]

Gutted.

Absolutely gutted.

This was no-one's fault - as is the nature of F1 teams look behind and not in front. Ferrari had no choice but to cover the pitstop by Webber and they weren't to know that the tyres would magically come back to life after some serious degredation.

The gesture by Alonso at the end to Petrov was sheer frustration but he handled himself beautifully during his interview with the BBC and was the first driver to go to the garage and congratulate Red Bull.

I'm really devestated BUT..............this was not supposed to be the year Fernando won his championship with Ferrari - he was within 10 seconds and 3 cars of doing it but the F10 has been a dog of a car and at times Fernando has outdriven the machine.

As an Alonso fan I am proud of his season and proud to be his supporter. Next year will be Alonso's year.

Finally, congratulations to Sebastian Vettel, the F1 World Champion 2010. Well deserved.

But don't get too comfortable Sebastian.......there's a prancing horse that will tame the red bull in 16 weeks time.......

[WiTcH]

Just some hope for next year from Fernando..

Quote:Fernando Alonso did not blame his team's choice of strategy at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix for losing him the championship, but admitted with the benefit of hindsight it was a costly decision.

Alonso pitted on lap 15 to try and cover off Mark Webber, who had pitted two laps earlier with graining rear tyres, but in doing so dropped from fourth - enough to take the championship with Vettel winning - to a net seventh place once everybody else had pitted. Crucially he fell behind Vitaly Petrov and Nico Rosberg, who had changed tyres behind the safety car, and then could not pass them on the track.

He said it was easy to point the finger of blame after the race, but refused to have a dig at his team.

"After the race it's always very easy to see the best strategy," Alonso said. "If we didn't stop Webber would have overtaken us, if we did stop we cover from Webber but we let Petrov and Rosberg in front. It was a very difficult call I think."

When he rejoined, he said it was then incredibly hard to get past Petrov and hinted that the Renault driver was defending a bit too hard.

"I tried to pass him once and he protected like it was the last lap of the championship and we were both fighting for the championship," Alonso said. "He was very aggressive but he drove very well and made no mistakes."

On reflection, Alonso said it had been a good year and he is looking forward to fighting for the title again with Ferrari next year.

"It was very good, for me especially after two years with some difficulties fighting to get into Q3. I think coming back to winning races, to fight for the championship in the last race ... I won five races, I overtook in victories Niki Lauda, Juan Manuel Fangio - big names in Formula One - so for me it's something amazing. I'm sure with this team it will be very possible to fight for championships in the future."

[ali786]

http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com...Itemid=157
F1 : Italian minister says Montezemolo should quit over Formula 1 title loss
Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:50

Montezemolo
Luca di Montezemolo should resign immediately as Ferrari President after the Italian marque blew Fernando Alonso's Formula One title hopes in Abi Dhabi.

That was the emotional charge late on Sunday by Roberto Calderoni, a minister in the Berlusconi cabinet.

Despite being the points leader going into the 2010 finale and needing just a fifth place to be champion, Spaniard Alonso was pitted early by Ferrari in response to Mark Webber's pit stop and finished seventh.

"Despite the ability of the excellent Alonso, Ferrari has managed to lose a championship already won," said Calderoni.

"We are ashamed of this insane strategy and he (Montezemolo) is guilty," said Calderoni.

"He should get out of Maranello immediately so he does no further harm to Ferrari," added the minister. "By the evening, we expect his resignation."

According to the Rome newspaper Il Messaggero, Montezemolo responded: "Sometimes winners lose, but we do not give up."

"There are some small people who systematically root against the country and its symbols. Luckily they are the minority," he added.

Alonso also defended Ferrari's strategy.

"Afterwards it is very easy to see the best strategy," said the Spaniard. "This is a sport and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Congratulations to Red Bull and Sebastian (Vettel), next year we will try again."

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Domenicali acknowledges that the strategy was wrong Ferrari

Stefano Domenicali, Ferrari team leader, acknowledged that the Scuderia has made a mistake in their strategy in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, which prevented the Spanish Fernando Alonso crowned for the third time world champion in Formula One

"We made a bad decision on the strategy for three reasons: we were guarding an opponent with two cars, we were too concerned with the rate of tire wear soft and we did not consider the difficulty of passing other cars on the track" explained.

"Now there is no need to discuss the reasons why we took this decision. Winning and losing, everything we do as a team. This is probably the worst race of the season, but when you lose by a handful of points it is clear that the title has been lost here, "added Domenicali.

"We felt the team was sad at this time to verify that you have lost a few points after being so close to the goal," he said.

Domenicali congratulated Fernando Alonso, "which is an outstanding pilot and a remarkable person" and has "demonstrated its power of leadership inside and outside the car." "We will do everything we can to give him and Felipe (Massa) the best possible car next year," he added.

"I want to thank the team for the great effort to be able to come to Abu Dhabi" after bad first half of the season, he said.

"Now we are sad, but we have to head high. We Ferrari, which means we are doomed to win and second place is a defeat. It is part of the sport and we have to accept it."

Domenicali also congratulations to German Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull-Renault). "He had the fastest car and finally he has been the best because it shows the points table," he said.

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Abu Dhabi, 14 nov (EFE) .- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari), who finished seventh and lost the world championship against the winner of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, German Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull), said after the career I had thought that Australian Mark Webber (DRR Bull) was the rival who had to make.
"The early-morning stop Webber put us in a situation or position covered it with him because he was running faster than us with new hard wheels, and covered it with (Russian Vitaly) Petrov (Renault) or (German Nico ) Rosberg (Mercedes). We decided to cover it with Webber, because we thought it was the rival who had to make. As it turned out the other two were very fast. A number of factors that went upside down in this race, as they have done well in others, "he said.
What right or wrong decision, Alonso said: "stop will be discussed throughout the week, we lost important positions ... But this is like the Tour de France: lost by a second yellow jersey, but it is not by the last lap so we lost the championship. They are 19 races, 19 stages, and there were mountains, there were time trials, sprints ... was in a work out, in other evil, and not just a race that decides the championship " .

"When I spent the first ten laps behind him (Petrov) and thought it was complicated, because there was no crack found. But we had to keep trying: a folded, anything that bothered him, one evening I had to brake ... be as close as possible to use it, but nothing came of it and we were the whole race trying without success, "said the Spanish champion.
"We already knew yesterday that Renault and Toro Rosso had opted for a smaller rear wing for a good second sector, a good top speed, and losing in the final. Therefore, to fall behind them was the worst. And We had the misfortune of being behind Petrov, and that we missed some options, because then pass Rosberg also going to be difficult, although perhaps a little less, "said Alonso.
Alonso admitted that "the race has gone wrong in many details." "The expected output (the British Lewis) Hamilton had gone much faster, as he did (his compatriot Jenson) Button, who passed me without any problems. Then the safety car in the first round, and the second stopped Rosberg and Petrov, and that sentence will normally be the last. And they went well, "he said.

"The race was lived behind Petrov highly concentrated. The team informed me that I had to go to Petrov and Rosberg. Had to take risks, to attack, knowing that if Vettel had a puncture, a penalty, a failure, we were champions. So we had to finish the race. We could not go to crazy by Petrov and then something happened Vettel "he said.
To the question of whether it was excited after seeing the title was lost, Alonso said: "Yes, I have escaped a few tears in here, with engineers, because I know how much they have worked and how they feel."

"I'm sad right now, just after finishing the last race of the championship, which had options. But in a few hours the feeling will change. You will see things from a perspective more generally how has been the year, steps forward have been made ...", added Alonso.
On his first year as a Ferrari driver said in Spanish: "I had just last year with hopes of becoming a Ferrari, a team he knew only from the outside, and you never know what you are getting. Get great teams is also a challenge very large, you have to go to a good start. I have done very well especially since the first day. I feel very comfortable with them and they with me, and work has been very easy, "Thanks to this union and that teamwork."

"We've done a job above the expectations that we had half of the year. Four months ago nobody thought we'd be in the final race leading the championship and surely we are now much more strongly for the future, because if this first year we have done things we've done, certainly in the coming years we expect a fruitful relationship, "he said.
On the ovation they gave their mechanics and engineers to return to the workshop said, "are always more the feelings you have with the team that you have when you're alone, get off the car and get to your room or you move. Think you've done everything you could, fought from the first lap in Bahrain until the final in Abu Dhabi, and has been very close. But then when you see all the people who have worked with you, you get excited and try to year to come. "

In hard times is going through after the defeat Alonso also had some words for the fans, "tell him to try next year, not here to fight, to give everything on the track and out of it too. And I think the relationship with Ferrari will bring success in the near future. "
"I have 29 years. I still have many years in Formula One and if in a normal year like this with the performance of the car we fought for the championship, no doubt that when we get to the point we can be even stronger. And this is sports, the beauty of sport teaches you to win, you lose. We must know how to win, you must surely know how to lose and Red Bull has scored more points than us because over nineteen races has done better than us and he deserves it, "he continued.

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(11-14-2010 09:15 PM)ali786 Wrote:  http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com...Itemid=157
F1 : Italian minister says Montezemolo should quit over Formula 1 title loss
Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:50

Montezemolo
Luca di Montezemolo should resign immediately as Ferrari President after the Italian marque blew Fernando Alonso's Formula One title hopes in Abi Dhabi.

That was the emotional charge late on Sunday by Roberto Calderoni, a minister in the Berlusconi cabinet.

Despite being the points leader going into the 2010 finale and needing just a fifth place to be champion, Spaniard Alonso was pitted early by Ferrari in response to Mark Webber's pit stop and finished seventh.

"Despite the ability of the excellent Alonso, Ferrari has managed to lose a championship already won," said Calderoni.

"We are ashamed of this insane strategy and he (Montezemolo) is guilty," said Calderoni.

"He should get out of Maranello immediately so he does no further harm to Ferrari," added the minister. "By the evening, we expect his resignation."

According to the Rome newspaper Il Messaggero, Montezemolo responded: "Sometimes winners lose, but we do not give up."

"There are some small people who systematically root against the country and its symbols. Luckily they are the minority," he added.

Alonso also defended Ferrari's strategy.

"Afterwards it is very easy to see the best strategy," said the Spaniard. "This is a sport and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Congratulations to Red Bull and Sebastian (Vettel), next year we will try again."

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Domenicali acknowledges that the strategy was wrong Ferrari

Stefano Domenicali, Ferrari team leader, acknowledged that the Scuderia has made a mistake in their strategy in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, which prevented the Spanish Fernando Alonso crowned for the third time world champion in Formula One

"We made a bad decision on the strategy for three reasons: we were guarding an opponent with two cars, we were too concerned with the rate of tire wear soft and we did not consider the difficulty of passing other cars on the track" explained.

"Now there is no need to discuss the reasons why we took this decision. Winning and losing, everything we do as a team. This is probably the worst race of the season, but when you lose by a handful of points it is clear that the title has been lost here, "added Domenicali.

"We felt the team was sad at this time to verify that you have lost a few points after being so close to the goal," he said.

Domenicali congratulated Fernando Alonso, "which is an outstanding pilot and a remarkable person" and has "demonstrated its power of leadership inside and outside the car." "We will do everything we can to give him and Felipe (Massa) the best possible car next year," he added.

"I want to thank the team for the great effort to be able to come to Abu Dhabi" after bad first half of the season, he said.

"Now we are sad, but we have to head high. We Ferrari, which means we are doomed to win and second place is a defeat. It is part of the sport and we have to accept it."

Domenicali also congratulations to German Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull-Renault). "He had the fastest car and finally he has been the best because it shows the points table," he said.

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Abu Dhabi, 14 nov (EFE) .- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari), who finished seventh and lost the world championship against the winner of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, German Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull), said after the career I had thought that Australian Mark Webber (DRR Bull) was the rival who had to make.
"The early-morning stop Webber put us in a situation or position covered it with him because he was running faster than us with new hard wheels, and covered it with (Russian Vitaly) Petrov (Renault) or (German Nico ) Rosberg (Mercedes). We decided to cover it with Webber, because we thought it was the rival who had to make. As it turned out the other two were very fast. A number of factors that went upside down in this race, as they have done well in others, "he said.
What right or wrong decision, Alonso said: "stop will be discussed throughout the week, we lost important positions ... But this is like the Tour de France: lost by a second yellow jersey, but it is not by the last lap so we lost the championship. They are 19 races, 19 stages, and there were mountains, there were time trials, sprints ... was in a work out, in other evil, and not just a race that decides the championship " .

"When I spent the first ten laps behind him (Petrov) and thought it was complicated, because there was no crack found. But we had to keep trying: a folded, anything that bothered him, one evening I had to brake ... be as close as possible to use it, but nothing came of it and we were the whole race trying without success, "said the Spanish champion.
"We already knew yesterday that Renault and Toro Rosso had opted for a smaller rear wing for a good second sector, a good top speed, and losing in the final. Therefore, to fall behind them was the worst. And We had the misfortune of being behind Petrov, and that we missed some options, because then pass Rosberg also going to be difficult, although perhaps a little less, "said Alonso.
Alonso admitted that "the race has gone wrong in many details." "The expected output (the British Lewis) Hamilton had gone much faster, as he did (his compatriot Jenson) Button, who passed me without any problems. Then the safety car in the first round, and the second stopped Rosberg and Petrov, and that sentence will normally be the last. And they went well, "he said.

"The race was lived behind Petrov highly concentrated. The team informed me that I had to go to Petrov and Rosberg. Had to take risks, to attack, knowing that if Vettel had a puncture, a penalty, a failure, we were champions. So we had to finish the race. We could not go to crazy by Petrov and then something happened Vettel "he said.
To the question of whether it was excited after seeing the title was lost, Alonso said: "Yes, I have escaped a few tears in here, with engineers, because I know how much they have worked and how they feel."

"I'm sad right now, just after finishing the last race of the championship, which had options. But in a few hours the feeling will change. You will see things from a perspective more generally how has been the year, steps forward have been made ...", added Alonso.
On his first year as a Ferrari driver said in Spanish: "I had just last year with hopes of becoming a Ferrari, a team he knew only from the outside, and you never know what you are getting. Get great teams is also a challenge very large, you have to go to a good start. I have done very well especially since the first day. I feel very comfortable with them and they with me, and work has been very easy, "Thanks to this union and that teamwork."

"We've done a job above the expectations that we had half of the year. Four months ago nobody thought we'd be in the final race leading the championship and surely we are now much more strongly for the future, because if this first year we have done things we've done, certainly in the coming years we expect a fruitful relationship, "he said.
On the ovation they gave their mechanics and engineers to return to the workshop said, "are always more the feelings you have with the team that you have when you're alone, get off the car and get to your room or you move. Think you've done everything you could, fought from the first lap in Bahrain until the final in Abu Dhabi, and has been very close. But then when you see all the people who have worked with you, you get excited and try to year to come. "

In hard times is going through after the defeat Alonso also had some words for the fans, "tell him to try next year, not here to fight, to give everything on the track and out of it too. And I think the relationship with Ferrari will bring success in the near future. "
"I have 29 years. I still have many years in Formula One and if in a normal year like this with the performance of the car we fought for the championship, no doubt that when we get to the point we can be even stronger. And this is sports, the beauty of sport teaches you to win, you lose. We must know how to win, you must surely know how to lose and Red Bull has scored more points than us because over nineteen races has done better than us and he deserves it, "he continued.

"If Fernando Alonso did not win, it was not his fault," said Montezemolo. "I'm proud of Ferrari, who lost the last race and some points (4). We were confident of victory, so now it hurts even more ...".

"At one point this season, none of you expected disputásemos world title until the last race," he added.

"Fernando has done an extraordinary season, was beautiful, the guys did a perfect season. We were finishing with their heads high," he said before releasing Montezemolo: "I expected more this season, Felipe (Massa the second driver) but I'm sure will be a plus. "

Andrea Stella, Ferrari track engineer, has admitted responsibility for Rai Sport: "Fernando deserved better support, behaved like a great driver all season. We did not respond the right way."

Ferrari sporting director, Stefano Domenicali, described as "a disappointment, congratulations to the guy who won. We will analyze it in stride, but we know what happened."

Loot: "Alonso is the best driver"
The president of Banco Santander, Emilio Botin, today praised Ferrari for his "very good season and Fernando Alonso as" the best "and" having fought without surrender "to the last race of the season in Abu Dhabi, where Spanish finished in seventh position.

Furthermore, in a statement, the bank reported that its sponsorship of Formula 1 (F1), especially Ferrari, have an economic return in 2010 of 270 million euros, 20 million more than it announced in September, and the to recover all that will invest in this competition until 2014.

For the first Spanish banker, Ferrari has proved to be a "winning spirit and competitive leadership 'that has allowed him to fight for the World Cup, although he was" not at all easy in mid-season. "

As for Fernando Alonso, Booty insisted that "the best driver in the world" and has shown "especially in difficult times, fighting for the victory of Ferrari" until the last lap. "

According to Boot, Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa, Ferrari also have formed a special tandem, Stefano Domenicali is "the best sports director of the F1" Ferrari, "the best record in the history of the sport" and Luca di Montezemolo, "a great president and one of the best entrepreneurs I've met in my life," said the banker.

Italian minister calls for the resignation of Di Montezemolo
The Italian minister Roberto Calderoli Ferrari today accused of having made a "crazy strategy" that cost the Spanish driver Fernando Alonso the title of world champion in Formula 1.

Calderoli also demanded the immediate resignation of the president of the "scuderia" Luca di Montezemolo. "He has to blame for Ferrari fans today feel embarrassment," said Minister of regulatory simplification.

"The strategists in the box spoiled the title and not the admirable Alonso. The manager is Di Montezemolo. You must go immediately to Maranello not keep doing damage to Ferrari," he asked.

At the headquarters of Ferrari in Maranello gathered 5,000 "tifosi" to see the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix on a giant screen. Alonso started with 15 points ahead of German Sebastian Vettel, who finally is the new champion after winning today.

Many fans left the venue before the end of the race. The usual feast of celebration and convoy of cars had to be canceled due to insufficient Alonso seventh.

[alonso 4ever]

well, i feel ferrari team should be blamed coz the pit call was a disaster..

petrov was defending his place like anything!! haha

after the race alonso was very angry
unfortunately i didn't see his interview or going to the bulls...

still for me and i guess lots of other fans, fernando is a champ no matter he won or no...

[icegirljenni]

I dont know why people go around blaming strategy. This is obvious isn't it? They loose because of the SCD. Mind to say that? SCD has brought petrov, nico pitted early. These 2 has is the only reason to why Fernando can not win. If Fernando did not pit at that moment, Webber could easily scrap through. Web needed another 1 lap to finish ahead Alonso. Sometime Ferrari are funny, when things went wrong they go around pointing finger to others. They always did that all the time.

I second what maranellord said, this is well deserve victory from Vettel. Webber not even care to fight towards the end. Simply hang around do nothing. Only several pushes towards the end. I know he might have difficulty to overtake but he is clumsy. He has cause the hitting barrier and ruin his own chance.

Fernando gesture over Petrov, very surprising to me. Frustration? Yes he can frustrate but why? Petrov racing him right? So why he have to took the anger out on someone he is racing with ? Unless he expect Petrov to move over for him. Is sad to said such a thing now i know but it is even sad to see his unsporting gesture. Which i did not expect to see form Double world champion. I think Webber should do the same to Fernando with the gesture thing. But Mark handle it quit well. We have seen lots of such gestures i believe but those only to he back marker, not really to the one you are racing with.

[VoRteX]

Fernando Alonso: “we did not count with Rosberg and Petrov having stopped already”
(http://www.as.com/motor/articulo/alonso-...mot_6/Tes)

He did not know that Rosberg and Petrov had pitted already and that they were forming a barrier when the team commanded him to stop!
And he was in championship position at the time. He was commanded to drop that position and go behind the barrier

It is obvious that his own team hided that live timing information from Alonso(info that all fans had, which made it even more incomprehensible for us).
And they made that same “error” twice, first with Massa and then with Alonso. Too stupid of an error to make it credible.
Looks like the title was decided in the circus’ offices rather than on track.
A $hame and an in$ult for the intelligence of millions of fans worldwide.

The declarations of Montezemolo, Domenicalli and Stella after the race are a farce. Read the whole interviews and read between lines.
Lots of nice words for Alonso(words are free) after ruining his race.
Was it really an error? are they -THAT- stupid? i dont think so

I have long assumed this is a show, a spectable, the great circus.

RedBull bluffing with Webber move? no way. He pitted after damaging a wheel with the wall (some other info they didnt give to Alonso).
I dont buy it.


Petrov did an awesome race. Perfect.
Some initial frustration on Alonso's part in understandable after another stolen championship. Later he apologized and things are cool with him.

The business needed a different car and a different driver getting the championship. Now they have it. Good for the business. I am glad for Bernie. Genius businessman.

I will continue watching the F1 circus though.
All in all, is it SO EXCITING!!

[ali786]

it was not petrov 'defending' it was that the track was difficult to overtake, we saw that with lewis and kubica. Lewis's car had more straight line speed but he could not overtake kubica.

[alonso 4ever]

come on!!

whatever happens they just say that it was planned for before the race and it's all a show!!

i believe that talking and writing is free and everybody can make a story and post it and people will buy that...

the season was great and that more than enough for fans...

[ali786]

At least fernando won something!

Alonso wins DHL Fastest Lap Trophy

The 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship was decided at the very last Grand Prix of the season on Sunday after a dominant drive from Sebastian Vettel, now the sports youngest-ever champion. The winner of the DHL Fastest Lap Award, however, is Fernando Alonso, who recorded five fastest laps during the season. Lewis Hamilton matched that figure, but Alonso holds the highest number of second-fastest laps.

Since 2007, the Formula 1™ Official Logistics Partner DHL has been the official presenter of the Fastest Lap Award, defining a new standard of speed. Ken Allen, Chief Executive Officer DHL Express, who handed over the award to Alonso said: “The fastest lap in a race is always a challenge. This is the result of speed, precision and teamwork. Winning the DHL Fastest Lap Trophy adds continuity and reliability to this. All these attributes found the basis for DHL’s express business as well.”

Former German F1 driver and RLT TV expert Christian Danner congratulated Alonso: “Fernando has driven an incredibly fast season in the Ferrari, which in most races wasn’t the fastest car. He has shown that, all things considered, he is a very strong and most complete driver in the field.”

Alonso succeeds Vettel, winner of the 2009 DHL Fastest Lap Trophy, and Kimi Raikkonen, who secured the trophy during its first two years. In 2007, the Finnish driver defeated his Ferrari team mate Felipe Massa with six fastest laps after a neck-and-neck race that was as exciting as this season’s. In 2008, Raikkonen sailed through with 10 fastest laps. Last year, Vettel secured his triumph at the very last second, making his penultimate lap the fastest of the championship finale at Abu Dhabi and catching up with Red Bull team mate Mark Webber on the home stretch

[VoRteX]

(11-15-2010 01:19 PM)alonso 4ever Wrote:  come on!!

whatever happens they just say that it was planned for before the race and it's all a show!!

i believe that talking and writing is free and everybody can make a story and post it and people will buy that...

the season was great and that more than enough for fans...

not having overcome the acceptance phase, i apologize for the conspiracy theories if it bothers anyone.
the bad strategy as a result of a previous pact can be a crazy idea but i can't help but think of Canada and specially Valencia and Silverstone.
how many points stolen there! was that not crazy too?
anyway, it was a great season and despite the bad moments there where many good ones too. it was most interesting to follow F1 2010 and see how Alonso against all odds and with a clearly inferior car -almost- takes the win.
AVANTI FER! AVANTI!!

[ashyxt]

(11-15-2010 09:00 AM)icegirljenni Wrote:  Fernando gesture over Petrov, very surprising to me. Frustration? Yes he can frustrate but why? Petrov racing him right? So why he have to took the anger out on someone he is racing with ? Unless he expect Petrov to move over for him. Is sad to said such a thing now i know but it is even sad to see his unsporting gesture. Which i did not expect to see form Double world champion. I think Webber should do the same to Fernando with the gesture thing. But Mark handle it quit well. We have seen lots of such gestures i believe but those only to he back marker, not really to the one you are racing with.

dear jenni I couldn't believe you just said this

the explanation is "emotion", Fernando could be in tears, 3 years of mental strength training, almost 2 seasons bearing driving lowmid-field car... 2nd/3rd best car + bad luck strikes earlier this season...

[icegirljenni]

I understand the emotion part. So you tell me, shall Petrov just make a way for him? Even out of frustration i really startled to see that. Webber never has a chance to win anything. I am more expect to see the same anger on him, but he deal it pretty well. Well i know many will not really like what i said, I am just astounded that's all.

Quote:Q. Sebastian Vettel gave a big thanks to you to keep Fernando Alonso behind. Did you rather a Red Bull won than a Ferrari?

VP: I just want to be champion myself. I don't think he needs to say thank you, because I did not do this for him, and I didn't want to disturb Fernando – I just wanted to do my job.

But maybe I should have asked on my team radio, please ask Vettel how much he wants to pay me to help, and then we go to Ferrari and ask them the same too. Then whoever gives the most, we see!

What a weird last paragraph

[alonso 4ever]

he was trying to be funny!!!

in my opinion, petrov should let him go through. not easily but after a fight..

maybe if it was another track, fernando's job was easier...

any way, it's over now :(

[ali786]

There will be changes at Ferrari next year, but Fernando Alonso, Luca di Montezemolo and team boss Stefano Domenicali are "safe", according to a report.

- Why would they even think about changing Fernando Alonso??

The Ferrari bosses are under pressure after their decision to pit Fernando Alonso early in Abu Dhabi backfired spectacularly and ultimately cost the Spaniard the Drivers' Championship.

Italian politicians were criticial of the team's "demented strategy" in the UAE and have called on Ferrari president di Montezemolo to step down.

Di Montezemolo has rejected calls for his resignation while Domenicali has apologised to Alonso and said "a mistake was made, which may yet result in changes within the Ferrari hierarchy and which may yet take a while to forget".

The Guardian reports that a source close to Ferrari said: "There will be changes at Ferrari for sure. What happened on Sunday was a big, heavy mistake.

"But they won't be changing the car, Alonso, the president or Domenicali. Instead there will be changes to the inefficient pit area. It may not even be a sacking. But next season some important people will no longer hold the positions they do today."

OMG, are they thinking about replacing Massa?

[icegirljenni]

(11-16-2010 04:33 PM)ali786 Wrote:  There will be changes at Ferrari next year, but Fernando Alonso, Luca di Montezemolo and team boss Stefano Domenicali are "safe", according to a report.

- Why would they even think about changing Fernando Alonso??

The Ferrari bosses are under pressure after their decision to pit Fernando Alonso early in Abu Dhabi backfired spectacularly and ultimately cost the Spaniard the Drivers' Championship.

Italian politicians were criticial of the team's "demented strategy" in the UAE and have called on Ferrari president di Montezemolo to step down.

Di Montezemolo has rejected calls for his resignation while Domenicali has apologised to Alonso and said "a mistake was made, which may yet result in changes within the Ferrari hierarchy and which may yet take a while to forget".

The Guardian reports that a source close to Ferrari said: "There will be changes at Ferrari for sure. What happened on Sunday was a big, heavy mistake.

"But they won't be changing the car, Alonso, the president or Domenicali. Instead there will be changes to the inefficient pit area. It may not even be a sacking. But next season some important people will no longer hold the positions they do today."

OMG, are they thinking about replacing Massa?

You can start the chat over here :-

=> http://www.alonso-planet.com/Forum-Formu...eason-Chat

Bring the chat over to Season off thread, because this 2010 race thread will be close soon.

We will talk about all next year news over there.

[ali786]

Conversation between Fernando Alonso and the Ferrari garage in Abu Dhabi
AS.com has reflected the conversation that includes the Italian daily Corriere della Sera 'between Fernando Alonso and the' box 'of Ferrari in the last World Championship race which left the Spaniard untitled

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Fernando Alonso was left without its third World Cup after a bad decision in the Ferrari garage. The Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera 'has revealed the conversation he had the Spaniard with engineer Chris Dyer, the head of the team strategy of the' Prancing Horse ', which has translated AS.com.

Lap 9: Alonso Stella warns: "You have won by three tenths Webber. Also Felipe (Massa) is coming."

Lap 12: Alonso informs Stella: "Webber and Vettel has stopped losing ground to Hamilton."

Alonso replied: "If you see that Philip can overcome in a turn, send him into (a pit)."

Answer box: "We're thinking, focus on Button."

Lap 14: "How's Philip?" He asks, referring to Alonso Brazilian pit-stop.

"Webber has left behind," replies the box.

Lap 15: - From the garage of Ferrari part order eventually will cost Alonso the world title: "OK, go now."

The Spanish says: "OK."

The box states: "You will come close to Webber. Ahead."

Lap 17: Alonso asks: "What is the situation?".

Stella replied: "We must advance the Renault in front, and not have to stop. And then there Rosberg."

Lap 22: Fernando call box. Stella: "I know you are giving everything, but it is essential to move to Petrov."

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what is clear is that Fernando did not know about Petrov and Rosberg having pitted during the safety car(as he said afterwards in a brief post-race interview), but the engineers had to know since that's basic info that even fans have. they must also know about Petrov's 3rd best speed record in Q3, which added to the kind of track means it was going to be impossible to overtake.

so:
1- either the decision makers in Ferrari are complete retards(unlikely) and need to be replaced
2- it was a "political" decision. probably The Mummy (uncle Bernie) and the FiA had a say from the business side of things.

since option 2 would be a terrible scandal and cannot be said even if true, they must act like they were complete fools. what they are doing now.
remains to know who are they going to replace to purge responsibilites.
trashing a championship and acting like nothing happened is not an acceptable solution for me.
ideally i'd like to know the truth, but that's not going to happen.

[icegirljenni]

I don't second the political decision. No way come to my mind to think about that. This is mostly down to the poor team decision or whatever reason i cant think off. Some even said Webber champ being rob. This is so funny to think like that, so driving to the barrier was fix? Many peoples still have many idea about the championship. While all i can see is, this year championship look quite fair and square.

[ali786]

Petrov complain about criticism of Ferrari fans
The Russian pilot reveals that Alonso was accused of stopping in Abu Dhabi through its Facebook page
ABC / MADRID

Vitaly Petrov was the headache of Fernando Alonso during the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix world championship decided in favor of Sebastian Vettel. Now, says Russian pilot who suffered the wrath of Ferrari fans through his profile on Facebook.
"Many accused me of having blocked Alonso. That's nonsense, I did nothing wrong, but Ferrari made a tactical error, "said Petrov in an interview published in the newspaper 'Bild'.
The Russian pilot also ensures that during the 39 laps he was ahead of Alonso nobody radioed that situation that Vettel would win the championship. "In addition, Alonso should have Rosberg also advance," argued Petrov.
After crossing the finish line, the TV cameras captured the Spanish driver scolding her performance at Renault Petrov. "It was a rude gesture. It was quicker than him, "he said.
Although dozens of newspapers around the world as he pointed star of the race and decisive for the victory of Vettel, says Russian pilot had not spoken to the German. "He has my phone number, but still has not called me," said Petrov, who did not read a text of appreciation Vettel published on its website.